The whole Wanganui/Whanganui thing has me baffled. Apparently local iwi are lobbying for a change to the spelling, yet insisting that they pronounce Whanganui without the 'hff' sound anyway, so to the ear Whanganui is certainly Wanganui.
Now, what I don't get, is if the locals don't pronounce 'Wh' with the 'hff' sound, then what makes their 'Wh' any different to their 'W'. And if Te Reo didn't become a written language until Wanganui iwi had developed that pronunciation, and there is no difference to the ear between 'W' and 'Wh' in the local dialect, then surely there can be no 'Wh' for Wanganui Maori.
The only way to make sense of this seems to be this: That Whanganui Maori acknowledge the original name of their vicinity was certainly "Whanganui" when it was named by Hau, but that over time Whanganui Maori decided to drop 'Wfhh' from their dialect, quite consciously, simply asserting their distinctive identity. And I suppose it is reasonable to assume Whanganui Maori remained conscious of this, given the significance of the river to other iwi, and the level of inter-tribal interaction in classical Maori society.
What is astounding about this, though, is that Whanganui Maori are willing to submit to national standards for Te Reo spelling rather than advocating the right and primacy of local iwi to determine spelling in accordance with pronunciation. This seems a very generous and suprising attitude.
So, as someone with Whanganui tupuna myself, but of the Ngati Peretania variety, I am happy to concede Whanganui as the original and appropriate spelling for the river and the city. But, with the rest of the tangata whenua of Whanganui, I will continue to use the current pronunciation.
Thursday, April 02, 2009
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As a Dutch import, married to a 5th generation Kiwi chick with no 'tribal affiliations' I find it an amusing yet sorry debate.
Personally I would like the whole palaver dropped - including the 'h'.
Totally off topic ...
Just curious about whether you still have agrarian aspirations ...
KSMM
Absolutely... you can take a man out of the land but you can't take the land out of the man! I'm just taking some opportunities in the city which unfortunately aren't available back home, still looking forward to the day I'm homesteading on the land with my family. The beauty is I'm fitting that into a much wider scheme of involvement in education and politics as well :)
Good to have you drop in Kansas. Didn't realise you had your blog up-and-running again. Hope you're doing well...
My girlfriend is off to the states soon and looking for contacts in Mississippi and Tennessee. She's on a tour of the south to check out black gospel music as she's a singer in that genre herself (although white!)...
AJ:
I got a chuckle out of your girlfriend's genre. To bad she is not heading closer to MO. We could have hosted her for a visit.
I am doing rather well. Rebuilding life is tough but God is so merciful. He is a God who has historically rebuilt waste places and brought his people out of oppression and placed them in a promise land. He has done that in my life. As I heal, I hope to share my testimony of how God blessed me through submission even though I was oppressed in the act of submission. I still adamantly support biblical feminity instead of feminism despite my experiences with domestic violence.
I am in a serious relationship with a godly man who has a love for quiver full and the agrarian lifestyle. We are preparing to make a decision about which parcel of land we are going to settle on. I am truly blessed with my new life. The path has not been easy, but God has held me with his righteous right hand. What more could I ask for?
May God bless you in the city and as you experience the stretching of political and educational viewpoints.
Blessings,
Christina
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